Opportunities for Indigenous Peoples in Latin America

March 8, 2007
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Despite significant progress in Latin America in reducing poverty for millions of its poorest citizens, more than 80 percent of the region’s indigenous peoples are still living in abject poverty, a trend that has changed little since the early 1990s. A new report by Harry Patrinos and Emmanuel Skoufias, Economic Opportunities for Indigenous Peoples in Latin America, examines why even with better education, job training, and other skills, the majority of Latin America’s 28 million indigenous peoples are not able to convert these skills into higher earnings and boost their living standards.

To learn more about the report, visit Economic Opportunities for Indigenous Peoples in Latin America and download full text of the report in PDF format.

The full transcript of this discussion will be available soon in Spanish.

La transcripción completa de esta discusión estará pronto disponible íntegramente en español.

ronny:
why are the indigenous people still trapped in poverty.
Emmanuel Skoufias:
This report moves beyond earlier work, which focuses primarily on human development, and examines why, even though we may have better education, job training and other skills, a large fraction of the indigenous people in Latin America are not able to convert these skills into higher earnings and increase their standard of living in relation to the non-indigenous people.

Our study highlights that low income and the low resources are mutually reinforcing. Low levels of education prevent entry into higher paying jobs, while lack of credit or access to farm machinery is a road block to increasing agricultural productivity.

As a result of their historical exclusion, indigenous people continue to have low levels of human capital, limited access, productive land, basic services and financial markets, and poor infrastructure.

Eduardo Quiroga:
Congratulations for bringing this issue to the fore. It appears that an invisible structure of separation (between indigenous & non-indigenous ethos/economy) has been historically consolidated. This is evident in some of your case studies and clearly established in other studies. How do we begin dismantling this invisible structure such that indigenous people have the same access to resources and services? Other societies have done it or are in the process.
Emmanuel Skoufias:
We thank Eduardo for a very good question. We can only answer it partially, for some of the policy issues that we are bringing to the surface here can provide partial solution to the problem.

Our report, in general, finds that the indigenous people work mostly in just a few occupations, living in rural and remote areas, and suffer from lack of access to well paying jobs in the mainstream labor market. The report looks in general at what types of jobs and income and sources of income the indigenous people earn, and we find that in the rural areas, indigenous people are more likely to work as unskilled agricultural laborers than the non-indigenous people.

In the urban areas, they are more likely to have informal jobs that lack security, access to social benefits, healthcare, and unemployment insurance. In Guatemala, for example, less than 50 percent of urban indigenous work for wages compared to 65 percent for the non-indigenous people.

Also, the distribution of land is unequal. The plots of land owned by indigenous people can be anything from twice as small as non-indigenous land holdings in Peru to nearly eight times smaller in Ecuador.

In addition, access to financial services is very limited. Very few indigenous households have access to formal or informal credit. For example, in rural Ecuador, indigenous business owners are often deterred from seeking a loan due to high interest rates. Two more factors that can be improved upon are access to infrastructure and basic services, access to running water and can help to increase productivity, and diversification of income generating activities. In rural Mexico, for example, lack of access to roads reduces the value of land.

And finally, social networks can be either constraints to growth or engines for growth. The indigenous people have strong social ties that are important for their survival and prosperity. However, upon occasion, these networks do not seem to help them into other types of employment that pay better. Networks seem to work mainly perpetuating employment in agriculture and self-employment.

Renata Avila:
How can we open spaces to fit their particular vision on western society's values?

How can we invite them to be part of a system that is not including their vision, their values?

It is the way a uniform education system or with a different approach to increase their skills and income?

Is legislation rather than policies the best way to do it?
Harry Anthony Patrinos:
Most countries in Latin America, and certainly the five countries we studied, have bilingual or intercultural education programs, but education quality throughout the region is poor, particularly for poor and indigenous people, and that includes the bilingual schools that indigenous people attend.

The bilingual programs are often improperly designed, lacking teachers who speak the native language, sometimes offered to children who don't speak an indigenous language, and often without proper textbooks in the mother tongue.

The bilingual schools that work, on the other hand, have teachers who speak the native language, are well equipped with bilingual materials, teach the national curriculum but use materials developed by the local community. And when the teaching of indigenous history is part of a national curriculum, it often becomes inclusive, as in the indigenous culture in New Zealand. Latin America's schools produce low reading and math skills as measured by national and international assessments and indigenous people lag in all measures.

Another example of a successful program that is not differentiated but reaches indigenous people is the successful conditional cash transfer program, Oportunidades, known as Progresa, in Mexico, which provides for investments in health, education, and nutrition, and has been shown to raise improve outcomes in health, education, and nutrition particularly for indigenous people without being targeted at indigenous peoples.

However, while this raises the number of years of schooling, but more investment needs to go into improving the quality of education that all people in Latin America receive, but particularly indigenous people.

Juan-Pablo Cerda:
From your recommendations towards improving economic opportunities for indigenous people in Latin America it seems to me that you miss making indigenous communities more "partnerable" to private businesses. It is true that most communities lack of access to banking, technology, the capability for writing proposals / business plans... sometimes even the language. But at the same time, these communities have, most of the times, assets that can be of high value if capitalized by “creative businesses”. For example, to allow for fair-trade products that will reach niche markets not accessible to non-indigenous. Moreover, private businesses, in partnership with these communities, can capture credit, grants, subsidies, etc that are not accessible for non-community instances. At the end, both the private business and the community end winning from their partnership, and as both parties know that sustainable revenues depend of keeping the partnership alive, incentives point towards caring about it.

1) Do you agree with the above ?

2) if yes, is it there a reason for you to not considering this in your recomendations ?
Emmanuel Skoufias:
Yes, in general, we agree with the point that Juan Pablo is raising, and, in fact, in our synthesis report, we have a number of examples where these particular efforts are being acknowledged, efforts that increase what we call the agency capacity of indigenous communities. For example, in box one of our report, we make detailed reference to the work of others like Andrew Babbington, and also a number of World Bank programs that began investing in initiatives to provide technical assistance and capacity-strengthening programs for indigenous organizations. Such projects include the PRODEPINE project in Ecuador, which is basically aimed at mobilizing pro-poor social capital and direct resources to indigenous communities so that they can manage these resources in accordance with their own visions and philosophy.

Another type of program that we make reference to is the Foundation of Farmers Organization of Salinas (FUNORSAL), which is basically an organization that creates sustainable rural livelihoods for indigenous households.

So, in general, the point the report acknowledges these very worthwhile efforts. Maybe they're not summarized in the executive summary, but we do think that there is scope for success in these types of efforts in helping indigenous communities.

carlos mora:
Why is the disparity in salaries in Latina America/when big corporation make american dollars over seas
Harry Anthony Patrinos:
The indigenous people in Latin America earn considerably less than nonindigenous people in all countries. On average, indigenous people earn about 50 percent of what non-indigenous people earn. When we analyze the earnings differential and try to estimate the level of discrimination, we find that one-third to one half is not explained by productive characteristics; that is, if indigenous people had the same levels of education, experience as non-indigenous people, they would still earn one-third to one-half less than non-indigenous people.

Part of the reason for the earnings differential is the lower level of education. Indigenous people have two to three years' less education than non-indigenous people. For example, in Bolivia, non-indigenous people have almost 10 years schooling. Adults in Bolivia have almost 10 years of schooling while indigenous people have only six. In Guatemala, non-indigenous people have six years of schooling while indigenous people have two-and-a-half years of schooling.

Also, for every year of schooling, indigenous people earn considerably less; in other words, indigenous people have a lower return to their schooling investment.

In Ecuador, indigenous people earn less than non-indigenous people at higher level of schooling or at the lower levels of schooling the people have a higher rate of return, and this relationship is reversed at higher levels of schooling. So, years of schooling are not equivalent between indigenous and non-indigenous people. The quality of indigenous people's schooling is lower, and this is reflected in Mexico in the fact that older workers have a bigger differential in earnings than younger worker, so the longer they're on the job, the more apparent the quality differences become.

In national, regional and international standardized tests, indigenous people score lower than non-indigenous people. For example, the gap in math scores in Peru is about 27 percent, so indigenous people scored 27 percent lower than non-indigenous people. So, while there is some evidence of discrimination against indigenous people, most of these salary differentials can be explained by productive characteristics like education, experience, and particularly the quality of education. So, there is a large role for policy and public spending to improve access to education and the quality of education that indigenous people receive, which will help them improve their labor market performance and reduce the wage disparity over time.

Boris Gamboa Valladares:
Las oportunidades de los pueblos indígenas en Latinoamerica pasan necesariamente por redescubrir los espacios vitales de reproducción de los grupos étnicos y estos espacios está siendo violados constantemente. ¿Que rol juega la legislación vigente sobre la protección de los derechos indígenas, sobre todo en materia de autonomía para la administración territorial?
Harry Anthony Patrinos:
Our report discusses, to some extent, issues of land, especially the quality of land, and we have some evidence about indigenous people and their access to land. These people have access to less land than non-indigenous people, and the quality of that land productivity is lower than the productivity of non-indigenous people's land.

We have some specific reference to land rights and differing situation across countries in Latin American region, which also discusses some of the programs designed to demarcate and title indigenous lands in Latin America.

But, our report focuses a bit more on other assets, and in terms of legislation or issues related to indigenous people's rights, we argue that the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) will coincide with the Second International Decade of the World’s Indigenous Peoples, which was declared by the United Nations in 2006, so both the U.N. Decade of Indigenous Peoples and the Millennium Development Goals will end in 2015. This gives an opportunity for indigenous people to link the decade to the MDGs and to argue for disaggregated data on indigenous people's indicator, in terms of education, and health in order to highlight the difficulty of reaching the goals without specific attention to indigenous people, and also to use the decade and the MDGs to push for a commitment to indigenous peoples and to argue for specific targeted reductions in things like illness rates or to increase school completion.

Ricardo Gomez:
In Guatemala the divide (discrimination) between white and indigenous populations has changed little in the past ten years (1996 Peace Accords) Are there any specific program or actions the WB is taking to support the required changes?
Harry Anthony Patrinos:
The World Bank just announced the approval of an $80 million project to improve education quality and to expand access to secondary schools in Guatemala. Guatemala has made significant improvements in primary education coverage in the last decade, but progress in secondary education has not followed at the same pace. This project, the Education Quality in Secondary Education Project, will improve access to quality secondary schooling for low-income and indigenous students by supporting primary education completion and quality, expansion and access and improvements in quality for the early years of secondary, and school-based management focused on school quality. The program supports overaged students to complete their primary schooling, and increases quality and access to secondary education by supporting, among other things, a flexible school calendar, which would be particularly useful to indigenous people, and would strengthen the demand for education through scholarships and subsidies for low-income students.

This would be one example of, a very recent example, of how the World Bank is supporting social change in Guatemala post-1996 Peace Accords.

Dammar Lohorung (Rai):
Since the 50s, there have been a plethora of development paradiagm which could not touch the Indigenous Peoples around the world. Even in Asia they are far behind the non-indigenous group. Cannot some development fanatics develop paradiagm suitable to these groups of People and try for social harmoney and tranquility?
Harry Anthony Patrinos:
The report on indigenous people in Latin America is follow-up to a study that was published last year which was an update to a study we did over 10 years ago on the situation of indigenous people in Latin America. Much less has been written at least in the World Bank about indigenous peoples, ethnic minorities and other groups in other parts of the world. We know that indigenous tribal and ethnic minorities are concentrated in south and Southeast Asia, but much less has been done in those areas. We are hoping to do more work on indigenous peoples and ethnic minorities around the world hoping to start with studies in Africa and East Asia, and we plan have a new report that looks at these issues from a global perspective perhaps next year.
JOSE JAVIER GOMEZ VAZQUEZ:
Many times The Latin American´s Goverments don't have suficient money amount to help the indigenous people, Why the WB do not do a reduce intrests plan for the money taht gives to the poor countries?
Harry Anthony Patrinos:
The World Bank has many programs for assisting governments finance their development agendas. For the specific case of indigenous people, in addition to projects that we finance with governments, we have a special grant facility for indigenous peoples. The program works in partnership with indigenous peoples' leaders worldwide and supports sustainable and culturally appropriate development projects planned and implemented by and for indigenous peoples. The fund has been operating since 2003, and will be inviting applications for small grants in the very near future.

The Web site is at "www.worldbank.org/indigenous," and it's called the Grants Facility for Indigenous Peoples.

Thank you for participating in the discussion.

To learn more about the report, see: Economic Opportunities for Indigenous Peoples in Latin America and download full text of the report in PDF format.

The full transcript of this discussion will be available soon in Spanish.

La transcripción completa de esta discusión estará pronto disponible íntegramente en español.